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I'm not that commenter, but I wouldn't were I that person. There's a lot more self-responsibility involved with a Comma system than what Tesla advertises as "Full self Driving." It's the difference between blaming Ford for bad factory breaks versus aftermarket parts the consumer made themselves.

> It seems like it would be more effective to simply put all the solar panels in a field, and construct a cheap shade over the entire canal no?

No because now you're using land that could be used for other things, which is exactly what this avoids. This takes existing land that loses water and costs money, and makes it lose less water and make money.


The concept of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agrivoltaics still sounds more promising than putting solar panels on top of the canal.

Not if the goal is preventing evaporation. Vertical panels in farmland solve a different problem than this does.

Yes, you are right. There's a comment further above to cover the canal but not with solar panels and have the panels in a solar park. The covered area in that solar park could then be used for agriculture - and maybe irrigated with the water from the covered canal.

Yes, we could also put the canal underground in a tunnel and build a nuclear plant, but none of that is relevant either. The article isa bout what we learned by putting panels on canals, not looking for alternatives.

That’s true of everything you build. The cost of land has to be taken into account, but land is much cheaper in some areas than others.

In California most of the land around the aquaduct is valuable cropland. The other side of it is at risk of wildfire.

The land over a canal is free to the state. And shades the water.

That's true in general, but California aqueduct land is mostly valuable cropland, and the other side is at wildfire risk

Did anyone else get weird deja vu from the sibling comment? And I can't figure out which one is the clone. cryptolobster posted about 1 hour after zdp7, but they both have good posting history.

You are assuming that land is expensive and forgetting that building and maintaining panels over long a canal is harder than building over a large plot.

No I'm not. I'm assuming that existing unused land should be reserved for better projects when we have currently used land that both can do more and where this helps save water. My comment had absolutely nothing to do with the price of land. Everyone else is missing the "water conservation" part because they're distracted by the solar panels and are getting nerd sniped. This isn't a solar first project, it's a water first project.

Harder but obviously not physically impossible either. From the image I can't imagine what the showstopper would possibly be. Technician on a little dinghy instead of a stepladder doesn't seem like a big deal. Presumably they make it where you can pull the panel off easily if you need to.

You're talking about something that is probably at least 10x the cost to build and maintain. You're making something simple, like swapping a single solar panel, from a ground-level one-man job into now a multi-person job with specialized equipment and water hazards.

Thats 10x the cost somehow? I doubt it. They put solar in all kinds of awkward areas where a technican can't just show up and turn a screwdriver from ground level. Seems it works somehow. Chances are if they go with this, they will have some maintenance craft like a barge platform I'd guess, where the job would be made effectively no different than a ground level job (aside from bringing over the barge which could be quite simple in design, e.g. wood platform raft made from drums and a cheap outboard motor on one end, it's only in the aqueduct after all not in any open water or current.)

Many of those installations end up abandoned when the cost to repair them exceeds the value of the output of the panel.

You just typically don’t notice it because unless the panel is severely damaged, a non-functional panel doesn’t look much different than a functional one.


The showstopper is spending $1,000 of tax payer money for what could be accomplished with $10.

We are just making up numbers now

I haven't seen anyone cite the project costs, so I think we all are

You're also not getting the free cooling capacity of the water which makes the panels more efficient - though that probably only drops the total cost 5% or so, but how much extra the heavier supports cost may not be much more...

In Switzerland, which is quite densely populated, they even have a pilot project with putting solar panels between rail road tracks:

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/emissions-reduction/solar-energ...


Of all the ideas ever tried, this one seems to be the worst

Yeah, feels worse that solar roadways.

Why?

Both are fascinating. I've had a pet theory for 30 years that there is not a single "mind" but that we're made up of more isolated aspects that do different things and working in concert we come up with our idea of "a mind".

Have you ever done any mindfulness meditation? I hit on a similar idea while meditating. My analogy is the brain is like the full spectrum of radio frequencies, but there's a "main station" that is "I". From time to time you lose that signal and tune into something else. And just because you're not listening to it, it doesn't mean the other stations aren't still broadcasting.

I have no idea if there's a biological origin for any of this, but it definitely fits with my experience of meditation and awareness training.


When you turn your thoughts inward you're depending more heavily on the Default Mode Network. I'm not well versed in it, but I believe conditions like anxiety and ADHD are partially caused by "too much" activity from this feature of the brain. With meditation you learn to adjust how much activity is occurring here by (not?) focusing on it.

No one but you said "non important."

It's not that cut and dry or else search engines wouldn't be legal. It depends on how much is used, for what context, etc. This very well may wind up being fair use.

Search engines "modify" it ie. show snippets + direct to the actual site.

In general fair use pretty much always requires it to be transformative and/or point to the source. Simply scraping it to prevent people from going to X isn't free use in any definition I've heard.


Remember ~10 years ago when Google had "cached" versions of the websites? I believe they removed that feature for this reason.

> He has absolute control and ownership over the WordPress project

The only thing he has that can't be moved or recreated are the trademarks. In an extremely short span of time everyone went from Xfree for their X server to Xorg, and Xfree limped along for a bit before falling over. This is the beauty of open source.


> I made this point at the time but Tailwind Labs' business model shouldn't exist.

It doesn't anymore. There are tens of thousands of businesses that have only been able to exist for a short time due to gaps in the market and technology. Video rental, started with video tapes, died with DVDs and didn't really make it into the bluray era. Owning DVDs came down to $20, no reason to drive across town and rent one for $6. But then Redbox was able to slip into that gap, putting lots of discs in a vending machine, those are cheap and they went everywhere! It was a buck a night! But then streaming killed that DEAD. Had tapes been cheap from the get go Blockbuster never would have existed, but studios decided to ignore that revenue for ages.


Sounds like AI saw terminals and the word "race" and assumed it was for exploiting race conditions.


It's been getting worse for months. I literally tweeted yesterday that Claude has ADHD and nothing I do will keep him focused. It's not entirely true though, I have found if I'm rude and mean it stays on track a lot better but I don't want to be rude and mean.

Me: I'm thinking about how to frob a knob using a mechanical arm attached to a raspberry pi. What IO does the raspberry pi have?

Claude: Five paragraphs about mechanical arm safety, electrical safety codes, the etymology of the word knob, and probably "I went ahead and wrote a proof of concept program to control mechanical actuators in Erlang."

Me: Did I ask for that?

Claude: "No. Here's a pinout of a raspberry pi."

I've taken to adding "focus on the question" to every prompt just to keep it on the road.


> but I don't want to be rude and mean.

I've also found that "bruh" and f-bombs get me better results, but like you say, I don't want to have that vocabulary.


Agreed. The stock firmware is virtually unusable. Extremely clunky, nothing renders right, moving books is a PITA, etc. Crosspoint makes it worth the $70. Without crosspoint, just don't buy it.


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