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Since people like an unrelated product, you thought it would be good marketing to jack the brand? Maybe I should start calling my B2B SaaS products Salesforce too!


Aviation is an incredibly low-margin business - airlines are less trying to earn "massive profits" and more just trying to continue to operate year over year


Fair enough, it would be more accurate to simply say significant increases in the bottom line. Certainly possible that it simply moves from massively negative to less negative, like American Airlines. It still makes a big difference to them all the same.


A household might have three or four mobile phones, but only one or two cars. Many cars also can and do support both Android Auto and Carplay. If my wife and I used Android and my teenage son used Apple, I'd definitely want our car to support both.


Say you get your way, and, for fear of Mark Carney rolling the tanks in and taking over North America, the US stops collecting any data on its citizens. How is the IRS supposed to know how much tax to expect from you? How is SNAP supposed to determine your eligibility? How is unemployment supposed to know if you're ripping them off or not? Data privacy is a real concern, but you need PII to run government services effectively. Running a state without collecting PII is like running a hospital without collecting any.


> How is the IRS supposed to know how much tax to expect from you? How is SNAP supposed to determine your eligibility? How is unemployment supposed to know if you're ripping them off or not?

How does knowing your religious affiliation help them with any of this?


"Collecting data" is what helps them.


I don't know why you understood my comment as saying government shouldn't have any data. I specifically replied to the comment about religion - there's no reason for the government to collect any data about that from individuals. Churches can report how many members they have if they want to. But it shouldn't be a question on the census.


> for fear of Mark Carney rolling the tanks in and taking over North America

You're saying it's farfetched, yet census data was already used as a tool to assist an extermination campaign:

https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/rearvision/the-dark-s...


They should follow the principle of least privilege. Why not use differential privacy?


This is a genuinely good idea for a business that I think you should explore further if you have the bandwidth.


Have you read it, and if so, do you recommend it?


Jargon feels like 1 for the ingroup and 2 for the outgroup.


It's creepy if you have bad vibes. If you can read the room and take rejection with a smile I think it's chill


This is exactly right. It's only creepy if you're creepy.

There is always someone looking to vibe with a positive-energy person they met that night. Sometimes it leads to more and sometimes you just dance all night, give a big hug, and never see each other again.


I believe Anthropic is a PBC not a C-Corp


Your rhetoric is clever, but I see a hole in it. Indefinite detainment is a logical consequence of lacking a right to a speedy trial, but is not identical to it.

I think it is in fact quite apt to say that the right to a speedy trial is to indefinite detainment as the right to privacy is to your information being used against you. Both are material consequences of lacking those rights.


The point is that 'rights' do not have to be justified on an economic basis.


We aren't talking about other rights. We're talking about this one. And THIS particular right is rooted in the fourth, fifth, and ninth amendments but isn't actually found in the constitution as a singular entity and wouldn't be codified until the 1960s. Guess which court case created that right in the first place? Griswold v Connecticut. Guess which one was overturned along with Roe v Wade because there's no explicit mention of a right to privacy in the Constitution? Same one.

The basis for the right which was, in part, ABSOLUTELY rooted in the idea that the because people and governments have a tendency to discriminate against you based on what you believe, then as long as you do not disclose your interests publicly, there should be no basis for discrimination. And why is this discrimination so important when NOT dealing with the government (which are nothing but glorified property protection rackets)?

Economics. Specifically, trade. That thing that mankind has been doing since before we've actually had recorded history? Whether it's bartering or seashells or labor or whatever, it's an essential part of being human, because it's how you get things you need to survive.

Again, we do not assign rights for which we cannot find a real purpose. You cannot be a functioning human being in a society without economic activity, whether you perform it or someone performs it on behalf of you.

You're flat out wrong.


Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not against statements of the form "this right is valuable because...". But I don't like this idea that fundamental human rights must have practical justifications.

For example, I like how the Declaration of Independence says "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." There's no attempt to justify them, just a plain statement that "GFY, obviously we have these rights".

As to privacy in particular, I don't think it's a stretch to interpret (4th am) the "right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures" as articulating support for our modern concept of privacy.

Sure, today's corrupt politicized SCOTUS could decide to interpret it otherwise. But it seems naive to think that justification based on fear of discrimination is going to prevent that disreputable politicized SCOTUS from interpreting it to some ends (i.e. outcomes favored by the parties lavishing upon them tangible gifts), no matter how well you argue it.

So, sure, go ahead, argue for our rights on any basis you can find. I hope you succeed.


The ability to violate people's privacy in the time of the Founders was much, much smaller than it is now. The Founders never could have envisioned such an all-encompassing surveillance machine as the one driving the world now. Of course they didn't codify a right to privacy. They didn't have to worry about every single group of people they interacted with to want to vacuum up every single piece of data they can.


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