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1. I didn't say the VAX was a personal computer, I've countered your claim that without Steve Wozniak people (me) would not be on a forum talking about these topics. As many people accessed "forums" on the internet without a desktop, I don't see your argument holds true.

2. If the agenda was hidden you probably would not know it. I would call a public agenda not hidden.

"If you think that he has a hidden agenda."

You have to show he has no hidden agenda (should be hard, see aboce) as you have claimed he has none, not me having to show there is one.



The forum we are talking on exists by the virtue of the fact that millions of people now have computing devices, and that trend had a couple of breakthrough moments, specifically, the 4004, the 8008, the 6502, the KIM-1, the Apple I (and later the II), the TRS-80, and after that a cambrian explosion of computer brands and models culminating in the PC standard and everything that followed from there.

A computer with a built-in glass TTY / memory mapped display and a dedicated keyboard was a game changer.

Likely that revolution would have happened eventually but I'm fairly sure (having been there and having used / played with most of the above, if not outright owned them) that the Apple I was a catalyst.

Hidden agendas can be inferred because people say stuff that makes no sense until you realize that they are gaining through some other channel than the one they are communicating on / about.

So if a guy tells you that you should go and deal with a specific bank and makes a real effort to hook you up you can infer that there may be a hidden agenda there. If he does not care which bank you deal with that would count as proof that he likely does not have a hidden agenda.

You can't be sure unless he tells you or until you find evidence.

I'm saying that you'll find it hard to find anything that you could pin on Wozniak that he would say because he gains from those words in an indirect manner at your expense.

I'm the last person on the planet to defend Apple and their products, I think they are just as bad or even worse than Microsoft and I wished they'd see the light and quit trying to push us back into some kind of locked-in new world of computing.

But I'm not going to deny the effect they've had on personal computing and how much I respect Steve Wozniak for his contributions and lack of guile.




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