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wait, please stick to the argument. Why is increasing emissions bad while considering tradeoffs?

>You can just flip this around and ask why is slowing down AI to control emissions harmful? What numbers that don't make tail risk claims are you providing for this?

Slowing down reduces the value it provides to humans, that's clear to me and you I hope.

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>Why is increasing emissions bad while considering tradeoffs?

Because climate change stands to be the biggest market failure in history. You need to show that the rapid scale out of data centers is going to reasonably offset the current trajectory we're on.


> Because climate change stands to be the biggest market failure in history

Proof?


“Climate change presents a unique challenge for economics: it is the greatest and widest-ranging market failure ever seen.” -- Nicholas Stern, Leading climate economist; former World Bank chief economist.

“The ultimate commons problem of the twenty-first century—global climate change.” -- Robert Stavins, Harvard environmental economist and climate-policy expert.

“Climate change, an externality that is unprecedentedly large, complex, and uncertain.” -- Richard Tol, Prominent economist specializing in climate-change impacts.

“Climate change is a global public-goods externality whose formal resolution requires an unprecedented degree of international cooperation and coordination.” -- Martin Weitzman, Harvard economist; pioneering scholar of climate risk.

“Climate change is the Colossus of all global public goods.” -- William Nordhaus, Nobel laureate and pioneer of climate economics.

“The problem with climate change is that there’s a market failure.” -- Joseph Stiglitz, Nobel laureate and former World Bank chief economist.


Our current emissions level is causing climate change.

Ok so you are against any type of action whatsoever? No matter how useful it is?

If they are strictly increasing our already unsustainable emissions level, yes. Eg. I am very much in favour of replacing coal and gas power stations with nuclear power stations, banning cars from city centres, etc.

why do you think it is unsustainable?

Refer to my first comment.



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